No Server Reset Required

[TomatoDePotato]

Hello,

I've seen a couple of requests to restart the server to day 0 in order to attract more players and give others who want to rejoin an equal starting point to get to the top.

I already replied on a topic regarding a similar matter, but from my experience in this server, I definitely think the suggestions below will make a huge difference and give the admins an opportunity to release new stuff and improve the server, not just for this database where more than 100 accounts are still active, but also for the newer databases to come.

 

The server is at an advanced stage, meaning those who continued to play got "god" items and those who want to come back or start here will have to face a harder starting point than the usual. This is why most people are waiting for the server to relaunch.

If you want to compete with heavy geared players you're just gonna have to farm and improve your gear, although it almost seems impossible now due to three reasons:

1) Semi dead market

2) Nothing "sexy" to farm

3) Pricing gaps

 

There are a couple of farm options for players to get geared, but with these 3 issues above I will now prove why they don't work properly;

• If a player scouts Eslant in hope to catch some big fishes and manages to drop somehow an Iron Necklace which is about 70 GBs, or an Iron Belt that goes for 20 GBs now, will still need to drop a few more of them since Phoenix Wings (3) is more than 350 GBs (I've been playing the server since V. 1 and I have never seen such a pricing gap). 
• Even if you manage to get a drop with your clan or party, let's say ROF which costs 150 GBs, will be split eventually (IF there is a buyer) between at least 10 players - still not enough.
• Or further more, if you kill 100 Booro mobs which gives you a Trina (repeatable quest), will be sold to the maximum price of 40m (20-30 minutes of farm) - not to mention that farming high class weapons, shells, red, black and gold chitins is a complete waste of time since they are worthless almost due to the fact people don't collect materials.
• And lastly, farming BUS and Gold Coins may take forever to actually see results and people don't seem to buy as much BUS as before since upgrades are less common.

 

Here are my several ways to correct the situation:

1) Upgrade the beginner items from +7 to +8, regarding to the jewelries I honestly believe they are pretty good enough for a beginner player. 

2) Lower the requirements of the wings quests - it will reduce the cost of crafting therefore the prices on market will also drop and it would be actually more possible to obtain.

3) Add Gold Bars with lower drop rates along with silver bars to DMs and Booro.

4) Make blood shards available only from mobs that spawn inside of bowl to stop the people from abusing it and causing the Valkyrie armors to lose their worth. 

5) Bring the Vice - Guards and Egos back to CZ from previous data bases in order for beginners to get better uniques and not just wait for events - encourage more farm. 

6) Add Old Iron Necklace and Old Iron Belt that will be slightly better than Forgotten Necklace and Belt+0, but not better than FT+1 from Monster Stones with a lower chance than most old uniques, and make them NON-UPGRADABLE.

 

With those suggestions given above, people will start farming again more frequently. More Gold Bars will be added to market (there is a major lack of them), players will need to farm Booro and DMs again for materials in order to get Valkyrie (since camping bowl wouldn't be enough), materials will be more expensive, event prizes (that already contain Valkyrie materials) will be more appealing, monster stones will get a comeback as an actual nice item, Trina will become more valuable, BUS will be more needed and market will be alive and balanced again - giving the "comeback players" and the beginners a much better opportunity to climb to the top.

After all it is a later stage of the server, but in my opinion a restart is not necessarily a must right now.

Thanks for reading,

Tomato.

Edited March 30, 2025 by TomatoDePotato

[AztecGoldHero]

Sounds good

[elProfessor]

nice suggestion ...I could see it working 

[elProfessor]

Just to make things even more clear a player to be fully geared right now as the market prices are , calculating the maximum items right now needs:
350GBS = phoenix 3
75-90GBS = valkyrie set+7 (more or less)
260-280GBS = Dual Ring of Felankor+0
90-100GBS = Iron Neck - Iron Belt
80-100 GBS = Earrings for example dual LKP+1 for mages 
Plus extra things you might need 
so we are talking how many gbs ? for a single character?
Imagine if a 8 people party decide to join the server right now and try to make gear for every single one of them 
its gonna take them forever thats the whole point of this .. Making the server easier to start means it will need less time and effort
with actual results and having fun in between because this is what matters to the game afterall its all about having fun and enjoying 
not just struggling and missing the point  
@nikos32 You should be honored and happy that so many people make those suggestions  to you because its shows respect and caring for the server and new players
playing on it to make it even grater ! 





 

[krestan]

I disagree with one thing, and that's the wings. I farmed from +2 to +3 in CZ for about 50 hours and I don't wish for anyone to have it easier than me! If someone complains that it's not fair for new players, then I say that it's not fair for all of us who have been collecting essences, BDW coupons and medals for weeks on our wings..

[d4rki]

3 minutes ago, krestan said:

I disagree with one thing, and that's the wings. I farmed from +2 to +3 in CZ for about 50 hours and I don't wish for anyone to have it easier than me! If someone complains that it's not fair for new players, then I say that it's not fair for all of us who have been collecting essences, BDW coupons and medals for weeks on our wings..

Kind of true, nikos could just give beginners, beginner wings on the level of for example butterfly wings/god wings level. Also it would be cool if eslant bosses drop silver bars as i mentioned in other thread it would compensate for their low drop rate.

Edited March 30, 2025 by d4rki

[krestan]

The wings cost me about 800 GB. The valkyrie set cost about 160, the iron belt and iron necklace when I bought them were about 250 GB each. We had to work hard for everything. I understand that you are trying to get new players to come, but at what price?? that they will get everything for free? In my opinion, this will have the opposite effect.

[krestan]

I discussed this with Nikos. I pointed out that Luff, ESL and Abyss are empty. I asked for a change in drop rating, addition of new mobs, removal of antimacrocaptcha.
mobs for example: Hellfire, Havoc, Enigma and Cruel

 

[TomatoDePotato]

I understand that getting these items was hard work, but also a shard+8 costed once 120 GBs, now it’s 800m on merchant.

This is what happens on Private servers, it’s nothing new - as the server advances prices go down and more items appear.

We’re at a stage where people got Valks+8, ROFs+1 and the only PK is over bosses on certain time zones.

The whole point of this topic is to fix the three issues which I’ve stated above and I will point them again:

1) Semi dead market

2) No farm

3) Pricing gaps

Once these issues are solved new players will come and everything should balance itself.

And I’m sure you didn’t farm all this way just to kill Riotes and Atrosses. 

Plus, nobody said anything about giving items for free…

 

 

Edited March 30, 2025 by TomatoDePotato

[d4rki]

Only babas get ROF+1 and valks +8 atm,  they are still uncommon and very expensive, atm common are valks +7 and mayby bdw+0/1 however your idea with adding beginner item to +8 is great and could make gap smaller between old and new players we just need beginner wings aswell as i mentioned earlier.

Edited March 30, 2025 by d4rki

[TomatoDePotato]

7 hours ago, d4rki said:

Only babas get ROF+1 and valks +8 atm,  they are still uncommon and very expensive, atm common are valks +7 and mayby bdw+0/1 however your idea with adding beginner item to +8 is great and could make gap smaller between old and new players we just need beginner wings aswell as i mentioned earlier.

Farming Hob Goblins, which would be the most efficient choice for a beginner without a clan to start farming in the server today, for an hour will give him about 100m.

The average gear today and it’s costs:

Valk Set +7 - 90 GB

Phoenix 1 - 150 GB

IN - 70 GB

IB - 20 GB

Legendary +7 - 30 GB

2x BDW Rings - 50 GB

Thats a total of about 400 Gold Bars in a rough calculation.

Meaning the new player is going to have to farm Hob Goblins for about 400 hours in order to come up with such a sum for average gear.

I am not even talking about ROF+1 or BDW+1, I am talking about the most common gear there is.

Increasing the beginner items to +8 won’t make it any easier for a newcomer to farm an almost impossible amount of GBs, in a very boring way, it will only solve the least of the issues.

To attract new players and the old players who wish to make a comeback we need to have a farming system and market system where they can actually see the goal, not just fantasize about it.

Our three problems as I have already proven above, rely on each other. If we fix only one, we won’t see a change.

 

Edited March 31, 2025 by TomatoDePotato

[MrCalaMiTY]

S>>> ascalon +8

[Salocin]

i think u can pk already

with +8 weopn // valk set7 //wow /1x bdw0 1x hv1 

and old we0 starter wp/ep1 glass belt or sos1

ofc u weaker than full geared but u can compete 

even with abit less gear i think

 

[Ragnar]

Im not currently playing the server so i dont know the market and the activity,but i can tell most of the people only will come if it relaunches,its a fact,players arent attracted to start on a 1 year and a half old server..starting from 0 everyone gets same chances to play,but i understand your position and your suggestions arent bad at all.

[Grey]

I would agree with the relaunch of the game, this would attract many clans and users to be able to play, I think most players are waiting for this to return to the game again.

[TomatoDePotato]

I honestly think that restart can wait, there are still some of us who stayed loyal and are definitely enjoying the action on the server.

I remember days where people begged for a restart where only GrowMaster was farming at bowl and it didn't happen, so why should it happen now where there are obviously still quiet many users? Of course it's not going to be as populated as if it was restarted right now, but I definitely think it's unfair at the moment. 

If you guys don't want to hop on and join now, even when new updates that are clearly going to help those who wish to start, then you're just gonna have to wait till the server is really finished.

 

[Calisto]

What you say makes no sense, people have already given up instead of trying. reopen the server and design it in a way that not everyone will leave it in 3 months...

No matter what you do to a finished server, it won't help, it's not the players' fault, it's the management who opens the server without caring, there is no GM at the events, a little effort is needed, nothing much is needed, everyone loves the pro anyway.

The +8 rate should be the same as USKO. The +9 rate should be opened. If you do not give people a purpose, you cannot expect them to stay. Upgrade papers should be made more difficult. You need to plan how to make it last longer.

[Calisto]

I mean, little touches, a little logic, minimum 500 players will fill 1 year, but we can't explain this to Nikos because he doesn't listen to us anyway.

[TomatoDePotato]

43 minutes ago, Calisto said:

What you say makes no sense, people have already given up instead of trying. reopen the server and design it in a way that not everyone will leave it in 3 months...

No matter what you do to a finished server, it won't help, it's not the players' fault, it's the management who opens the server without caring, there is no GM at the events, a little effort is needed, nothing much is needed, everyone loves the pro anyway.

The +8 rate should be the same as USKO. The +9 rate should be opened. If you do not give people a purpose, you cannot expect them to stay. Upgrade papers should be made more difficult. You need to plan how to make it last longer.

If what I said made no sense then there wouldn't be people still playing here, having fun and looking to make it better.

I'm sorry but it's not from your place to decline other's thoughts as you please.

FYI +9 don't exist in MYKO. ProfessionalKO is a MYKO based server and it's been pointed a few times that it'll remain loyal to it's version  - This is why me and many others remain loyal here.

 

[Salocin]

well there are many costum items that aren´t MYKO based on here 

 

[Ragnar]

14 hours ago, TomatoDePotato said:

If what I said made no sense then there wouldn't be people still playing here, having fun and looking to make it better.

I'm sorry but it's not from your place to decline other's thoughts as you please.

FYI +9 don't exist in MYKO. ProfessionalKO is a MYKO based server and it's been pointed a few times that it'll remain loyal to it's version  - This is why me and many others remain loyal here.

 

Its not that loyal to myko since it has red/black chitins,wings and all the new items...myko never had these things,i never liked them haha

Edited April 1, 2025 by Ragnar

[TomatoDePotato]

Maybe it is, maybe it's not entirely true but it has anything to do with this topic either.

[MrCalaMiTY]

On 3/30/2025 at 8:53 PM, krestan said:

I disagree with one thing, and that's the wings. I farmed from +2 to +3 in CZ for about 50 hours and I don't wish for anyone to have it easier than me! If someone complains that it's not fair for new players, then I say that it's not fair for all of us who have been collecting essences, BDW coupons and medals for weeks on our wings..

So u prefer using ur wings 3 against atross right ?

[Traiteur]

On 4/1/2025 at 1:11 PM, MrCalaMiTY said:

So u prefer using ur wings 3 against atross right ?

sell atros with ascalon +8 and phoenix 3 . same attack stats with isillion.

[Calisto]

On 31.03.2025 at 22:13, TomatoDePotato said:

Eğer söylediklerim anlamsız olsaydı, burada hala oynayan, eğlenen ve daha iyisini yapmaya çalışan insanlar olmazdı.

Üzgünüm ama başkalarının düşüncelerini keyfine göre reddetmek senin haddine değil.

Bilginize +9 MYKO'da yok. ProfessionalKO MYKO tabanlı bir sunucudur ve birkaç kez kendi versiyonuna sadık kalacağı belirtildi - Bu yüzden ben ve diğer birçok kişi buraya sadık kalmaya devam ediyoruz.

 

It's been a long time since I left mykoluk, proffesionalko is 100 short, a server is not called a server, you spoke on your own behalf, I commented on my own behalf, don't talk nonsense if you want.