AztecGoldHero Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 (edited) Isn't it an idea to release a gear dispenser npc ? With items that can compete with the high gear players atm? It will be items that are pretty easily to get and they won't be tradeable or upgradeable so all the old players won't get screwed over. For example: Armors: Valkry Sets +6 / Red Chitins +7 / Black Chitins +7 / Shells +7. Jewels: BDW Rings+0, Rocs +1 , Rols +1, Roms+1, all Juraid Jewels +1, EME+1, PE+1, SSE+1, Skeleton Belt +1 , Bronze Belt+1 , Ft Necklace +1. Weapons: Normal High Class+8 (Such as Raptors 8 , Shards 8 , Iron Bows+8, Elixir Staffs+8 ), All Juraid , FT, Biffrost Weapons +7. Wing: Wing Of War or Phoenix Wing 1 (Also untradeable) Unlock all skill quests & master automatically when people login the game for the first time. With these things above people can also compete alot easier on big bosses such as felankor to drop Rofs, Iron Necks , Iron Belts , Glass Belts aswell. With the current beginner gear u can't do much at all. And when you do this kind of patch you should advertise it and for sure alot of ingame players will post it around in discord servers and tell eachother about it aswell. And in the current servers nowadays which are 99.9% xacs wannabes you have a high chance to get alot of players back with such a patch like this. @nikos32a suggestion with a example doesn't have to be the exact same as i posted here. Edited March 26, 2025 by AztecGoldHero 5 1 1 Quote
zorroha Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 I agree this gear must more effective. But addionally buff mage pls. Quote
ThomasScamShelby Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 @nikos32 Boost beginner items or relaunch cuz we are bored af waiting for restart 3 Quote
Jacklight Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 2 hours ago, ThomasScamShelby said: @nikos32 Başlangıç öğelerini artırın veya yeniden başlatın çünkü yeniden başlatılmasını beklemekten çok sıkıldık Rakibin olan @Gökyüzü seni bekliyor hadi oyuna gir ve o dişli rakibi yen Quote
Dylan Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 yes, make the server viable for new players to insta pk and you will get a great influx of players! 4 Quote
elProfessor Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 6 minutes ago, Dylan said: yes, make the server viable for new players to insta pk and you will get a great influx of players! you can come play whenever Chayni 1 Quote
KingEvil Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 100% support this. Would definitely increase the amount of players significantly if it's advertised well. Cause I truly believe ProfKO is the most stable server there is and ran by the best. 1 Quote
Dylan Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 1 hour ago, elProfessor said: you can come play whenever Chayni Whenever its easier to start. sure i will be glad to kill you Quote
elProfessor Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 39 minutes ago, Dylan said: Whenever its easier to start. sure i will be glad to kill you Im your friend you cannot kill me 1 Quote
mindkrash Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 (edited) This is a great idea. Even more so for a server such as ProfKO that has been up for over a year and older players have an advantage over newer players. Edited March 26, 2025 by mindkrash 1 Quote
Salocin Posted March 26, 2025 Report Posted March 26, 2025 (edited) The weakest point of beginner items from npc right now is actually the armor its chitin and has - 10 ac less than normal chitin also the paper armor and u have no wings at all ya hard Edited March 26, 2025 by Salocin 1 Quote
Administrators nikos32 Posted March 27, 2025 Administrators Report Posted March 27, 2025 I'm afraid that this could ruin the entire farming aspect of the game. It's not really in my interest to turn it into a PK server. A boost to armors and wings might be necessary, especially with the new armor sets coming, but I'm not sure about weapons. The beginner accessories are already decent IMO. I also disagree about the quests, like the Master Quest -- those should always require completion, as they are part of the game's poor farming system. It would be nice to hear more thoughts on this though. 4 Quote
KingEvil Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, nikos32 said: I'm afraid that this could ruin the entire farming aspect of the game. It's not really in my interest to turn it into a PK server. A boost to armors and wings might be necessary, especially with the new armor sets coming, but I'm not sure about weapons. The beginner accessories are already decent IMO. I also disagree about the quests, like the Master Quest -- those should always require completion, as they are part of the game's poor farming system. It would be nice to hear more thoughts on this though. i can absolutely see what you mean by the master quest not being auto. However, the longer the server stays online, the bigger the gap between new users and old users gets, and the less new-player friendly it gets. And that is the main issue. Maybe simply extremely buffing the starter gear to a point that it can be made viable in pk/events or where it is required to have somewhat competitive gear. or where the end-game users doesn't have gear that is SIGNIFICANTLY stronger then someone who just joined the server. Making that gear untradeable, or maybe making the gear expire after a set amount of time(2 month?) and have a limit of 1 per mac-ip/ip could be a way to keep the farming aspect of the server, and it would also not impact the economy, since the gear would not get into the eco. Because as the server is right now, it is really not new-players friendly. For a server to be ''attractive'' for new users, it must mean that a new user can be in the race to be the ''best'' skill-wise to compensate the lack gear-wise and not have to spend 100s of $ to just catch up to the current average gear/below average gear. Also having better starter gear would speed up the whole starting part of the server, witch would be encouraging to new players even more. Because, as of right now, as a literal new player who used to play profKO back in 2016, I don't consider myself being even available to reach a similar "status" as current old players. It simply seems reasonably unreachable by a legit way without dropping 100s. Edited March 27, 2025 by KingEvil 5 Quote
Dylan Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 6 hours ago, nikos32 said: I'm afraid that this could ruin the entire farming aspect of the game. It's not really in my interest to turn it into a PK server. A boost to armors and wings might be necessary, especially with the new armor sets coming, but I'm not sure about weapons. The beginner accessories are already decent IMO. I also disagree about the quests, like the Master Quest -- those should always require completion, as they are part of the game's poor farming system. It would be nice to hear more thoughts on this though. Back in the day they did the exact same in apex "pk update" and it was a huge succes, ppl kept farming to get better then the starter gear and that server went from 2 clan to the most active it ever was @twostars can surely confirm this that this update only did good for apex back in the day also, in apex they gave +1's/+11 weapons/ +8 armors if i remember correctly, but players still farmed to get the next upgrade so events became more active and fun instant max level everything open give it another thought but i don't think this change will be bad for profko and its current players 4 Quote
Stophia Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 (edited) You should take these suggestions into consideration. All the players who say these are old and valuable players. Edited March 27, 2025 by Stophia 1 Quote
elProfessor Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 as an old player I also totally agree with the rest of the people and as @Stophia says they are old and valuable players ... every opinion counts.. Beeing more new players friendly would definately increase the amount of players and competition ... whoever joins the server now has no chance to farm or make his gear fast enough to be able to pk because nobody is gonna let them do this ... They have a huge gap on items which means they cannot participate in boss fights and events like bifrost-csw etc or even kill felankors because , big and geared clans will always get them first... so there is actually no reason for a new player to come and try ...either they gonna spend months to reach the gear by farming so hard ... or they will have to spend lots of money to catch up which is also hard and wrong for many people out there .. Since the server has been going for so long its the only way to keep it even more alive so people can come back and play .... Thats a reason that most people stop early after every relaunch is because the gap starts to build in and some of them dont have the patience-ability-time- to catch up with all the new items the server provides and they only enjoy the first couple of months and then leave ... The whole farming aspect of the server will continue because we got new armors coming like you said @nikos32 and people are still trying to make Rings of Felankor and different uniques ... you cannot give everything ready to a new player but you can give him a decent gear so he can be able to pk-farm once he starts to make him try and reach the "maximum" and the rest of the newest items you are going to introduce.I would not agree on a relaunch because this server doesnt deserve it , but make it valuable for everyone to come enjoy it as it is 3 Quote
Vinchsenso Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 13 hours ago, nikos32 said: I'm afraid that this could ruin the entire farming aspect of the game. It's not really in my interest to turn it into a PK server. Unfortunately you are do that, El morad, Luferson, Eslant still empty, best drop/rewards spots are transferred to Colony Zone. Entry requirements for events are based on LP - received in Colony Zone. This is more and more PK server. I suggest best drop spots back to primary areas and remove macro restrictions like before. If you wants more players in Colony Zone and the game you can try changed pernament ban (i mean about light crimes) for temporary - For example. first strike 2 weeks ban, second strike 1 month, last strike pernament ban. Now you (or your GMs) give pernament ban for the players using the bugs in the game (sometimes unknowingly) as for the players using the cheats, it's not to same. and also try fix bugs or just legalize, because not all knows that its bugs and still use it. Quote
Berzerker Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 15 hours ago, nikos32 said: I'm afraid that this could ruin the entire farming aspect of the game. It's not really in my interest to turn it into a PK server. A boost to armors and wings might be necessary, especially with the new armor sets coming, but I'm not sure about weapons. The beginner accessories are already decent IMO. I also disagree about the quests, like the Master Quest -- those should always require completion, as they are part of the game's poor farming system. It would be nice to hear more thoughts on this though. i agree whit you , we dont need server whit full free gear and to just pk , that kind of servers last for 2-3 mounts and shut down , only reason why i em playing this server is cus it last so much , we collect gear , upgrade , fight etc ... for me its fun it should not be easy ... yes we are all old players ( like btw 30-50 years ) , yes we all have family and kids so we cant farm much , but we all can spent 2-3 h per day in game ( like i do ) we are all happy whit those new that new gear /weapons comming up but you need to understand something Nikos, you got economy problem in server and items dont have any price , pricess are going down like crazy... PROBLEMS ARE : - LURING STUPID BEAST AT BOWL -USING MACRO FOR FARM ( now u got full clans at booro farming , like 8x afk acc ) - USING MACRO IN FT EVENTS ( 1 guy log in 5x acc put em in ft andd he gets 5x ft cupons , comes on merchant and sell em fast underprice ) you need to solve this or you shut down macro or you shut down multy acc`s ,these kind of things are not fair to new players , to even old players who are in server ... Quote
AztecGoldHero Posted March 27, 2025 Author Report Posted March 27, 2025 (edited) Thanks all for the comments. I think it's no issue at all the item lists i placed up on there. I've been checking ingame the items its worth not that much. I've also thought about another decision is what if @nikos32releases a new patch that everyone gets strong expirable gears for like 2 weeks and he advertises it around and in that time they can try to catchup. And ofcourse they get pack of scrolls pots to begin with. Or do this 1 week each month idk. Edited March 27, 2025 by AztecGoldHero Quote
Vinchsenso Posted March 27, 2025 Report Posted March 27, 2025 3 hours ago, Berzerker said: yes we are all old players ( like btw 30-50 years ) , yes we all have family and kids 3 hours ago, Berzerker said: you need to solve this or you shut down macro or you shut down multy acc`s ,these kind of things are not fair to new players , to even old players who are in server ... so new updates are coming? - registration just with id documents, 1 account for 1 person, like a foods cards in the shops (1 bread for 1 person, not more) - just old players ( like btw 30-50 years ) with familly and kids as a animals/puppets with mentality - most important is continue their kind of race - without a macro mouse, click 1000000 times on this same spot/place as a robot. I think you guys trying create the circus but is not funny, its a sad. btw i dont crying. Quote
xFETTYWAP Posted March 29, 2025 Report Posted March 29, 2025 You say you don't want to turn it into pvp but most of the players currently playing are playing with equal items. It's not to their detriment that you do such a thing, if they are not looking for opponents and players, everyone wants to pk with a large group of players. Right now, the farm is completely built on big bosses, except for a few farmers, you can make a new start with a big update. Because in my opinion, the problem of the server breaking down in terms of users is the attacks experienced before and the lag problem experienced for 1-2 weeks. The best server is profko, we are waiting for you with a new server or an update that will really equalize the users. Good luck 1 1 Quote
TomatoDePotato Posted March 29, 2025 Report Posted March 29, 2025 (edited) The server is at an advanced stage, meaning those who remained got "god" items, and those who want to come back or start here will have to face a harder starting point than the usual. This is why most people are waiting for the server to relaunch. I think that the idea of upgrading the beginner items is generally good, but adding the items above is quite too much. It would lose the point of the server being also a farm server and not just a full PVP server that you can take items from NPCs and go straight to CZ. If you want to compete with heavy geared players you're just gonna have to farm and improve your gear, although it seems almost impossible now due to three reasons: 1) Semi dead market 2) Nothing "sexy" to farm 3) Pricing gaps If a player farms Eslant all day and manages to drop somehow an Iron Necklace which is about 70 GBs, or an Iron Belt that goes for 20 GBs now, will still need to drop a few more of them since Phoenix Wings (3) is more than 400 GBs (I've been playing the server since V. 1 and I have never seen such a pricing gap). Even if you manage to get a drop with your clan or party, let's say ROF which costs 150 GB, will be split eventually IF there is a buyer between at least 10 players - still not enough. Or further more, if you kill 100 Booro which gives you a Trina, you will be able to sell it for only 40m (20-30 minutes of farm) - not to mention that farming high class weapons, shells, red, black and gold chitins is a complete waste of time since they are worthless almost. And lastly, farming BUS from and Gold Coins may take forever to actually see results. Here are my several ways to correct the situation: 1) Upgrade the beginner items from +7 to +8. 2) Lower the requirements of the wings quests - that would actually lower the cost of wings and make them much more affordable and faster to craft. 3) Add Gold Bars with lower drop rates along with silver bars to DMs and Booro. 4) Make blood shards available only from mobs that spawn inside of bowl to stop the people from abusing it and causing the Valkyrie armors to lose their worth. With those suggestions given above, people will start farming again more frequently. More Gold Bars will be added to market (which there is a major lack of them), players will need to farm Booro and DMs again for materials in order to get Valkyrie, materials will be more expensive, event prizes (that already give materials) will be more appealing, monster stones will get a comeback as an actual nice item, BUS will be more needed and market will be alive and balanced again - giving the "comeback players" and the beginners a better opportunity to climb to the top. Edited March 29, 2025 by TomatoDePotato Quote
ESN Posted April 7, 2025 Report Posted April 7, 2025 (edited) There shouldn't be end-game free items handed out to players who left the server early and now want to return, or to those who jumped between servers and are now coming back—only to potentially ruin the market and leave again after 2–3 weeks. Instead, offer them a paid rental system. If they truly want to return and play, they can rent decent gear for a reasonable price. Meanwhile, if they decide to stick around, they can work on gearing up their own characters gradually. Here’s a possible rental tier breakdown: Tier 1 – Beginner items ( Better ones than the current Beginner Items ) : Free Tier 2 – Mid-tier gear: 1 GB + 100 - 350 KC for 2 weeks ( It could also be especially useful for solo players or farmers who want to try things out first without paying 25 GBs for full gear.) Tier 3 – End-game gear (e.g., +7 Valkyrie set, +7 Legendary Weapons, +1 Earrings, Iron Necklace 0, Iron Belt 0, Glass Belt 0, BDW 0, Phoenix 1 or max Phoenix 2 ) 20-25 GBs + 700-1000 KC for 10 days or 2 weeks This kind of system gives returning players a chance to explore, play, and potentially rejoin the community in a fair and structured way. And if they truly enjoy it, they’ll have the option to farm and invest in their own gear. Most importantly: we must never overlook the efforts of the current, loyal player base. Their grind and commitment should always be respected and protected. It would be helpful to have an option to pack Master and Skill materials into a Jar or Scroll that can be sold by the Merchant. This way, each class can simply buy it and unlock their Masters and Skills easily, instead of collecting each material one by one. Edited April 7, 2025 by ESN 1 Quote
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