Bhromka Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Hello, I think when you open a poll from the panel, you should make a statement on the forum regarding the details of this poll. In this way, people can more easily understand what they voted for. For example last poll u asked about old rings nerf . But u have to tell ppl how stats will take that item after that poll . Also u started new poll about +9 items. It's only saying "very low rate". So is it like %0.1 chance? Or are you going to rearrange all the upgrade rates? Will +8 upgrade rate boost ? A community cannot vote soundly in a poll with too many unknowns. If you care about the community's opinion, you need to be more open about this kind of stuff. @nikos32 Regards, Bhromka Merhaba, bence panelden bir oylama açtığınız zaman bu oylamanın detaylarını forumda paylaşmanız gerekir. Bu sayede insanlar neye oy vereceklerini daha rahat anlayabilirler. Örneğin son oylamanız old ringlerin nerfine ilişkindi. Ancak böyle bir oylama yaptığın zaman en azından bu oylama sonucu nerflü itemın vereceği statları oylama esnasında insanlarla paylaşmanız gerekir. Ayrıca şimdi de +9 itemına ilişkin yeni bir anket oluşturmuşsunuz. Anket sadece "çok düşük bir ihtimalle" ibaresini içeriyor. Yani bu %0.1 şans gibi bir şey mi? Yoksa upgrade oranlarını baştan mı düzenleyeceksiniz ? +8 upgrade oranını arttıracak mısınız ? Topluluk bu kadar bilinmeyeni olan bir ankete sağlıklı bir şekilde oy kullanmaz. Eğer topluluğun fikrini önemsiyorsanız bu tarz oylamalarda daha açık olmanız gerekir. @Majesty @GM_Thanos Saygılarımla, Bhromka 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasScamShelby Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Bu arada +9 u 3.ayda açmak ne kadar sağlıklı bilmiyorum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJhon Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Eğer +7 +8 itemlerin ulaşılabilirliğini kolaylaştıracaksa yani upgrade oranını güncelleyecekse yeni amaçların ortaya çıkması adına güzel bir adım olabilir ama konuda bahsedildiği gibi daha fazla detaya ihtiyaç var 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasScamShelby Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, SirJhon said: Eğer +7 +8 itemlerin ulaşılabilirliğini kolaylaştıracaksa yani upgrade oranını güncelleyecekse yeni amaçların ortaya çıkması adına güzel bir adım olabilir ama konuda bahsedildiği gibi daha fazla detaya ihtiyaç var Eldeki +8 ve +7 itemlerin değeri düşer o zaman da bir anda millet mızlanmaya başlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) I don't think it would be healthy to open +9. Items such as exp item, walkrie, red chitin +8 are almost non-existent on the server. These valuables can be considered +9 after they reach saturation. If there are good events in the summer months, the increase in users will reach high levels in the winter months. With this increase, it seems more appropriate for +9 items to become upgradeable. Edited June 19, 2022 by Emperor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Emperor said: I don't think it would be healthy to open +9. Items such as exp item, walkrie, red chitin +8 are almost non-existent on the server. These valuables can be considered +9 after they reach saturation. If there are good events in the summer months, the increase in users will reach high levels in the winter months. With this increase, it seems more appropriate for +9 items to become upgradeable. As long as the game manager takes care of the game in the summer months, a very nice winter month awaits us. Turks have a pattern; "Remedy Nikos" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 I think items +9 gonna be bad, atm with iron neck + skb + wog is hard tank dual shard +8 (101 each hand) imagine now shard +9 114 ap, or raptor +9 205 ap, first need fix problems about farm, titan, booro and dm are useless atm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M52 Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sky said: I think items +9 gonna be bad, atm with iron neck + skb + wog is hard tank dual shard +8 (101 each hand) imagine now shard +9 114 ap, or raptor +9 205 ap, first need fix problems about farm, titan, booro and dm are useless atm +1 most of players still use +7 shells its not the time to +9 upgrade yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, M52 said: +1 most of players still use +7 shells its not the time to +9 upgrade yet Isnt about upgrade, is about u cannot tank weapons +9 bro, i have iron neck + skeleton belt + wing of good + dual we + bdw flame, and is hard tank dual shard +8 imagine now one rogue with dual shard +9 is 114 ap is so much and pain, u cannot do nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJhon Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, ThomasScamShelby said: Eldeki +8 ve +7 itemlerin değeri düşer o zaman da bir anda millet mızlanmaya başlar Valkry sistemin canlanması için bunun olması şart +7 ve +8 item kolaylaşmadığı sürece Valkry sistemi canlanmıyor adam zar zor +7 +8 yapıyor onuda eritip valkry kasmıyor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HzMelikSah Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 @Bhromka +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasScamShelby Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 Valla +9 raptorun karşısında lycaon stafflar ve woeler direkt +7 olarak çıkarsa okeyim.Benim karşımda +9 raptor toto shardlarla hatta +9 ii ile üstüme koşacak ben elimde tahtadan +7 staffla vurmaa abi diyecem xdd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators nikos32 Posted June 20, 2022 Administrators Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 The questions are quite clear and needs no complications. We usually start polls for updates which may affect a big part of the playerbase. We cannot share any information because there's actually no information for share until the moment we close the polls (which remain open for a week up to a month). We could add a button redirection to a forum topic with more info about the possible changes but as I said, we do not have more information to give. What you want is me to actually start analyzing every parameter and start saying: "this is a huge change, so 50.01% yeses are not enough but we need at least 70% or 80% or 90% of those. also maybe we gotta check out how many of the voters actually had a PK active mage in their account. also make sure to compare the final poll results with the real ones (no proxy / no fake acc / no friends' acc voting from same pc/ip and so on). or if 50% accounts vote yes then we'll increase this item's STR by 5, if 75% accounts vote yes then we'll increase this item's STR by 10 and we'll add this item requirement to the quest, if 100% accounts vote yes then we'll increase item's STR by 15 and AC by 5 and add it in bosses drop list" What you're asking is not possible, we cannot predict all possible cases in every poll we make because poll has to be closed first in order to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators nikos32 Posted June 20, 2022 Administrators Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 6:58 PM, Bhromka said: Also u started new poll about +9 items. It's only saying "very low rate". So is it like %0.1 chance? Or are you going to rearrange all the upgrade rates? Will +8 upgrade rate boost ? The question is "Do you want items to be upgradeable to +9 at a very low upgrade rate ?" There's nothing mentioned about +1 - +8 upgrade rates, so no boost to +8. But even if you really had such a question then you could have asked any of the GMs in here or in game. Taking into consideration that +7 to +8 upgrade rate is at 1% then very low rate could mean anything between 00.01% to 00.10% but smth between 00.02% and 00.03% is more ideal, but then again, that's just my thought and I'm not the only one in the staff. But until the poll is closed and in case there's a fair amount of players who wish items to be upgradeable to +9 then we'll discuss about it further. On 6/19/2022 at 6:58 PM, Bhromka said: A community cannot vote soundly in a poll with too many unknowns. If you care about the community's opinion, you need to be more open about this kind of stuff. It is what it is, the poll is there, if you've any questions about anything, you can ask and the GMs will reply to you sooner or later, that's their job after all. If you do not want to vote that's still fine, because it means that you don't care and that you're okay with any result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toredo Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 10:59 PM, nikos32 said: It is what it is, the poll is there, if you've any questions about anything, you can ask and the GMs will reply to you sooner or later, that's their job after all. If you do not want to vote that's still fine, because it means that you don't care and that you're okay with any result. maybe you could add the same poll that u have on website on forums aswell so people can disguss about their choice or ask anything they dont understand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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