Administrators nikos32 Posted October 11, 2020 Administrators Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Keep in mind that all classes can use the bifrost rings (i.e. Flame Ring, Shio Tears, Imir Ring). By reducing their elemental damage by 50% (e.g. 15 Fire Damage from a Flame Ring (+0) instead of 30), they remain the most powerful among all but at least they are balanced. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tüm classların bifrost yüzüklerini kullanabileceğini unutmayın (yani Flame Ring, Shioo Tears, Imir Ring). Elemental hasarlarını %50 azaltarak (örneğin, 30 yerine 15 Fire hasar Flame Ring) en güçlü olmaya devam ederler ancak en azından dengelidirler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vien Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, nikos32 said: Tüm sınıfların bifrost halkalarını (yani Alev Halkası, Shio Gözyaşları, Imir Halkası) kullanabileceğini unutmayın. Elemental hasarlarını% 50 azaltarak (örneğin, 30 yerine Alev Halkasından 15 Ateş Hasarı (+0)), en güçlüleri olarak kalırlar ama en azından dengelidirler. If you lower the base damage, the chd and hb value will drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinChenzo Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 why all clas can use ımır , fr ,shio ?? only mages can use bf rings ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhromka Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, WinChenzo said: why all clas can use ımır , fr ,shio ?? only mages can use bf rings ? I think u have to do POLL about this @nikos32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyFawkes Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Mr.@nikos32 if everyone use that rings (foverin,Roc,Heros,Lego,Rol) will be useless when Elemental rings show up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysia Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 why do we need elemental rings? just make them usable for mages and add different elemental rings later if necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxijean Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vien said: If you lower the base damage, the chd and hb value will drop. I think you miss the point which is the reason of why those items are more valuable then others. Their relation is actually vice versa, I mean FR is expensive due to HB, cuz HB has already more elemental damage itself. Thus, adding corresponding ring increases the effect. In short, decreasing the elemental damage on rings will not affect the price of those items cuz they are already OP items among the weapons. The only effect of the decreasing the elemental damage on rings will be decrese in R damages, i.e people will still looking for high priced HBs CHDs FRs or Shios. If the reason of this poll aims to decrease the prices of such items, it will not affect unless someone edits directly elemental damage of those items. Edited October 11, 2020 by Oxijean 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vien Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 59 minutes ago, Oxijean said: Bence bu eşyaların diğerlerinden daha değerli olmasının nedeni olan noktayı kaçırıyorsunuz. İlişkileri aslında tam tersidir, yani FR, HB nedeniyle pahalıdır, çünkü HB'nin kendisi zaten daha fazla temel hasara sahiptir. Böylece ilgili halkanın eklenmesi etkiyi artırır. Kısacası, halkalar üzerindeki element hasarının azaltılması, bu eşyaların fiyatını etkilemeyecek çünkü bunlar zaten silahlar arasında OP eşyaları. Halkalar üzerindeki element hasarını azaltmanın tek etkisi, R hasarlarında azalma olacaktır, yani insanlar yine de yüksek fiyatlı HBs CHD'ler FR'ler veya Shio'lar arayacaklardır. Bu anketin nedeni bu tür öğelerin fiyatlarını düşürmeyi hedefliyorsa, birisi bu öğelerin temel hasarını doğrudan düzenlemediği sürece etkilenmeyecektir. You are thinking wrong. elemental damage sadece r degil skill'dede damage artırıyor. eger degişiklik olursa raptor +7 ile HB +7 değeri aynı olucaktır (HB +7 169/+7 EXP RAPTOR 177) yani elemental damage düşerse 200gb niye +7 hb alimki 20gb exp raptor +7 alirim aynı vurucaktır sonuçta. bence bunun degişmemesi lazım çünkü birseylerin daha değerli oldugu belli olması lazım Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefnl Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Vien said: You are thinking wrong. elemental damage sadece r degil skill'dede damage artırıyor. eger degişiklik olursa raptor +7 ile HB +7 değeri aynı olucaktır (HB +7 169/+7 EXP RAPTOR 177) yani elemental damage düşerse 200gb niye +7 hb alimki 20gb exp raptor +7 alirim aynı vurucaktır sonuçta. bence bunun degişmemesi lazım çünkü birseylerin daha değerli oldugu belli olması lazım hayır öyle bişey olmuyor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasFuckingShelby Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Why dont you just make fr,imir,shio for mage class like usko?Please remove mage class instead of decrease mage dmages so you will be happier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindkrash Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Any final word on this? Will it be 15 elemental dmg or 30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesty Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, mindkrash said: Any final word on this? Will it be 15 elemental dmg or 30? Elemental damages will be reduced by %50 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HattoriHanzo Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 do they affect mage's aoe skills like in usko ? Never tried with mage just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesty Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, HattoriHanzo said: do they affect mage's aoe skills like in usko ? Never tried with mage just curious. Yes, they increase mage aoe skills. We will test damages again before patch arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) @Majesty @GM_Thanos Oylama serverin başlarında yapılmaya başlandı. Bu oylamaya oy veren oyuncuların bir kısmı şuan bizimle beraber devam etmemekte. Adil bir oylama için oylamanın tekrarlanması gerekiyor diye düşünüyorum efendim. Edited December 10, 2020 by Mystic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCalaMiTY Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Consider add curse resistance on those ones, mages already hitting/iceing/stunning way too much( on big group , yes) Cant imagine the disaster once melees are forced to play without curse resistances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveousss Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, MrCalaMiTY said: Consider add curse resistance on those ones, mages already hitting/iceing/stunning way too much( on big group , yes) Cant imagine the disaster once melees are forced to play without curse resistances. Calamity these rings were for only mages.Already rogue and warrior class strong I cant imagine with these rings mele class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesty Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Mystic said: @Majesty @GM_Thanos Oylama serverin başlarında yapılmaya başlandı. Bu oylamaya oy veren oyuncuların bir kısmı şuan bizimle beraber devam etmemekte. Adil bir oylama için oylamanın tekrarlanması gerekiyor diye düşünüyorum efendim. Oylama sunucu betadayken yapıldı, server başında değil yani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCalaMiTY Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, neveousss said: Calamity these rings were for only mages.Already rogue and warrior class strong I cant imagine with these rings mele class I absolutly agree with u neveous, but nova dmg its already more than ok without those rings, and stun ice ratios are nice now with melees using roc,rol . I can imagine whats going to happen when they are forced to sacrifice curse resistance to increase dmg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxijean Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Mystic said: @Majesty @GM_Thanos Oylama serverin başlarında yapılmaya başlandı. Bu oylamaya oy veren oyuncuların bir kısmı şuan bizimle beraber devam etmemekte. Adil bir oylama için oylamanın tekrarlanması gerekiyor diye düşünüyorum efendim. Reis ring bi gelsin bi deneyek sonra iş koyun adamlara ha olmaz mı ? bu ne acele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveousss Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, MrCalaMiTY said: I absolutly agree with u neveous, but nova dmg its already more than ok without those rings, and stun ice ratios are nice now with melees using roc,rol . I can imagine whats going to happen when they are forced to sacrifice curse resistance to increase dmg. Lol we hit 800 damage meteor with woe 7 to kibal = he has no talia still If anyone say okay this damage they can make side char and i will kill with 4 mele char 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCalaMiTY Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 The main point of the conversation was curse resistance/ice stun ratios. Dont send it to damages. Melees are going to see his dmg increased no more than 110/150. Meanwhile a single 45 or 33 will rkt them badly leaving sins as a potatoe with daggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCalaMiTY Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, neveousss said: Lol we hit 800 damage meteor with woe 7 to kibal = he has no talia still If anyone say okay this damage they can make side char and i will kill with 4 mele char However if u ask my deepest opinion, i would never able melees use imirs etc. A warrior with 8500 hp, hell breaker 7 on dual flame rings its a bizarre creature made by nikos. Such as a sin with 188 dex on dual chd. But u cant disagree what i mentioned before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 800 damage to a warrior with 100 fr seems normal to me,what about the 1200-1300 dmg to rogues without magic shield?and 1k with magic shield xdddddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveousss Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ragnar said: 800 damage to a warrior with 100 fr seems normal to me,what about the 1200-1300 dmg to rogues without magic shield?and 1k with magic shield xdddddd Trash warriors even have 6.5 7k hp.700X6 =4200 damage.You should go doctor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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